Celtic v Legia Warsaw, Live updates
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Just back from Murrayfield. Haven’t read back and don’t intend to.
The bad news is that, in the flesh, our team looked worse than they did on TV. McGregor and Matthews get pass marks but this is a team not comfortable in the style of play they are asked to do.
God save us from football purists but Ronny must accommodate the players we have or sell 10 of them and start from scratch. I saw most of this group play last year. These players are not as bad as they played tonight and last week. Something else is going wrong.
Billy Bhoy,
Ah, Dermot Desmond, the guy that can make it to a St Pats v Legia match in Dublin, but cannot seem to find the time to get to a Celtic game.
Dan
The sad thing is I expected what we got. All the signs were there since Lennon left. I watched the first game in hope but saw my fears realised. Tonight only confirmed my judgement alas.
Just too much change in too short a space of time not helped by injuries and players not playing to any form.
But football is a funny game. Remember 3-0 down to Killie? Lenny was doing a Mowbray and Stokes turned the season on its head in 45 minutes.
Ronny is going to have to find the Stokes equivalent of that day.
Pukki, Balde, Boerrighter, Mulgrew, Ambrose, Stokes, Griffiths, Commons, Izzaguire, Kayal…
…get shot of the lot of them
Disgraceful and disgusting performance……I’m 64 and have been a supporter all my life. In the 50’s and early 60’s we were crap and expected dire performances….then came the glory days. Enjoyed the struggles through the Rangers 9 in a row….because we entertained and tried so hard…still felt the pain…but we tried.
Tonight I feel that I may never watch a Celtic game again…..not one single quality player in this team. Charlie Tully, Bobby Collins, Jimmy Johnstone, Henrik, Aiden, Kenny, Paul McStay, Tommy Burns et al, et al……those guys were players.
Can’t blame Ronny D….he just inherited these useless mugs who play for Celtic today.
Totally distraught
Legia are a Europe League outfit and at the moment we aren’t that good.
To be frank I’m not surprised by what’s happened tonight. Our performances in Europe last season left no reason to suspect that we would walk over any team with any sort of pedigree and we did nothing to fix the holes.
I’ve more boring stuff to say on this but I’m too tired to articulate it properly.
sftb
What style were they asked to play?
Random thoughts
The board gets stick for not investing in team.
The limited money the board DID make available for incoming players last year was, by common consent, spent badly.
The new manager is attracting considerable concern after four games regarding his all round capability – including his judgement re tactics and use of players.
Would RD actually be trusted by the support with the spending of say £10m? Would his judgement be trusted by the suits? Would this be a reason/excuse not to spend at all?!
If not, is there the will at the club to effectively dismantle the playing squad on a potentially seismic level so that our Monster Munch equivalents get hunted to give the manager the chance to rebuild the squad thereafter?
Will we EVER get bang for our buck?
Is it becoming apparent to people that both last season and this have been – and will be – just parking in the layby awaiting “RETURN OF THE O** F***”
Will I have to revisit my belief regarding what I had initially thought and (after some external persuasion) dismissed as paranoid – that our failure to win the SPL those three seasons between 2009-2011 was an act of ultimately futile benevolence on our part designed to save the Huns from their fate that lay in store?
O** F***ISM. ALIVE AND WELL – COMING BACK SOON – COURTESY OF A BOARD NEAR YOU!!!
And, finally…..
Is the game on TV?
We were rotten tonight. How bad does that make guys like Pukki, Balde and Boerrigter who can`t even get into that team?
Just in from the game, if that’s what you can call it. That was an utter shambles and a total embarrassment. I recognised the players on the park but not the game they were playing. And that, is down to one man. The Manager! The man is completely out of his depth and has no idea about European football. His team selection last week was, both baffling and laughable and the team ended up being lucky to get away with a 4-1 defeat. How he could play a complete stranger to the squad after one 2 hour training session will remain forever a mystery. What kind of message did that send to Stokes and Griffiths? And then if Rony boy thought he was that good, where was he tonight?
The minute this manager kept harping on about more energy and commitment is needed from the players, I thought to myself, ‘this guy’s trying to create an impression to the board’ and when he first came out with that hackneyed and much loved phrase around HR and middle management meetings, ‘I’m looking for continual personal development’, I KNEW he was trying to impress.
The man’s a clown but it’s not his fault. I reckon he is starstruck! He probably couldn’t believe that a club like Celtic would even be interested in him. From managing a nothing team up some fiord to managing Celtic in one short step has been too much for him… and he knows it. Hence all the crass management speak.
The board took a gamble on him. It didn’t pay off! They shouldn’t continue trying to recoup their lost bet. They should cut their losses now. Let him go and spend a bit of money – for we are, currently, a cash rich club – and employ a manager with a record in football management. In the meantime we will very likely lose Forster, VVD, Matthews, Commons and after watching Izzy throw his top to the GB tonight, probably him as well.
It’s all gone so wrong so quickly and that’s down to the board.
Can we go back to arguing about Hamas?
I am guessing that the Legia Warsaw team were not reading the headers on CQN this week.
They completely outplayed us over the 2 legs and deserved the victory. Well done Mr Z.
HH
CRC
Martybhoy – a good summary of how raw we are.
I will awake in the morning still a Proud TIM :-)
The problem, I tortured myself by staying right to the very end tonight, as I watched Fraser, remove his shirt and pass onto a kid in section 13, walking off, as in gone.
Followed by Emillio, who passed his shirt to the green brigade section, and walked off in tears, so is he also off ?
I do believe there is a major problems in the dressing room, just to need to look at players attitude to see something is seriously wrong.
So who do our super decision making board back ?
For me several players should be punted,
I will awaken still a TIM
A few of the players will not
So to end with another positive, where is the Europa League Cup Final, with only 36 k season tickets, surely well all get one for the final :-)
Oh and we’ve got 7 days until we open our league campaign
Hail Hail and Goodnight Celtic Supporters
To the rest, in the words of TD GIRFUY
Our Grand children will Liverpool ,Chelsea ,Manchester city ,Manchester United ,supporter’s
oisin71
23:51 on
6 August, 2014
Billy Bhoy,
Ah, Dermot Desmond, the guy that can make it to a St Pats v Legia match in Dublin, but cannot seem to find the time to get to a Celtic game.
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Or any of the last 3 AGM’s apparently!
why DO they always have to clash with his golf outings!
Does anyone agree that Neil Lennons words were foolish in the extreme. Have they had a psychologically negative effect on the players ? These players should have been able to take care of that team. Then again maybe they are not as good as we or they believe.
Predictably rank rotten. Can’t remember a more soulless experience of being a Celtic fan. Losing meekly to a nothing team in an Edinburgh rugby stadium. There appears to be no progressive strategy for the future. Just settling for mediocre existence. Cue mass apathy at the prospect. To think back to the hope and excitement we had for the future when wee Fergus was building that magnificent stadium.
coolmore mafia
23:55 on 6 August, 2014
Can we go back to arguing about
Hamas?
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OOoft…!
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Stevie May, available for around £700-800k. Not someone I would have advocated signing even at the end of last season but he cannot be any worse than Stokes or Pukki.
Buy Scottish, sign up the best young Scottish talent available and promote from within. Get rid of John Park’s procession of duds.
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My Dear Macjay
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So, 40,000 Yazidis*…..
(25,000 of Them Children!)
(* A Branch Of The Zoroastrian Faith,Followed By Freddie Mercury..)
Have Been Driven From The Last Refuge In Their Ancient Ancestral Homeland…
Two Small Towns In Northern Iraq..
Ethnically Cleansed…And Many Slaughtered..
By The Murderous ISIS Jihadists…
Funded And Armed By QATAR And SAUDI ARABIA…
Who Regard Them As ‘Kuffar’/’Devil Worshippers’..
The 40,000 Souls Are Isolated On A Mountain Top Since Last Weekend..
With Little Food ….And Less Water…
In 40C. Daytime Heat…
NGO’s Confirm That Sixty Children Died From Dehydration On Monday And Tuesday, ALONE….
Despite The Mountain-Top Being Virtually Surrounded By ISIS Forces…
The Valiant Kurdish Peshmerga Have Attempted To Break Through To The Beleaguered Yazidis….
And Lead Them To Safety….
The Iraqi Airforce Have Tried…
Also With Little Success….To Air-Drop Supplies To Them..
Yet CQN’s “GAZA GHOULS”…Are Silent!
There Will Be NO MARCHES On Their Behalf…..
On The Streets Of CORK…Tomorrow !
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(From Cranmer Blog)

Wednesday, August 06, 2014
Canon Andrew White: “The governments and media of the world may have forgotten us..”

It is a tedious seasonal metaphor, now clichéd to the point of political hollowness, but these “Arab springs”, once hailed as the founts of liberty and democratic dreams, have become long, cold winters of turmoil, suffering, persecution and mass slaughter.
Egypt is economically unstable; Syria is is meltdown; Iraq is disintegrating; Libya has become the very bloodbath we tried to avert; Saudi Arabia is struggling with internal discord; and Iran is fomenting regional conflict. The Arab world is collapsing in painful spasms and convulsing in a series of existential catastrophes. The disintegration has been swift and inexorable.
The ensuing humanitarian tragedy is epic – one might almost say ‘biblical’. Tens of millions across the Arab world are in need of urgent aid as they displaced, made homeless and hunger for their daily bread. Hundreds of thousands have lost their lives through civil war and sectarian strife. Now that the regional strongmen have fallen one by one, the vacuum is being filled by the Salafist-Jihadist Islamic State, and they have brought hell on earth.
Where is the Arab League in all this? How are they responding to the Caliphate? What are they saying about the apocalyptic death and destruction? Where are the declarations opposing Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi or uniting in their condemnation of his ‘robust’ interpretation of Islam?
Silence.
There are, however, a few causes of optimism. God’s people are not mute; nor are they turning a blind eye. Here is the latest update from the Vicar of Baghdad, Canon Andrew White:
I can’t express how immensely encouraged I am by the huge amount of support we have received here for the persecuted Christians here in Iraq. People have prayed and sacrificially given. They have enabled us to at least begin to meet the crucial needs of the people. Dr Sarah and I have been working flat out on meeting these needs but we have to have more help and I pray that today we will find the help we need. Today I will head North to Kurdistan where Sarah is at the moment.
Helping Through The Iraqi Churches
The main way we are helping the massive numbers of internally displaced people is through the various indigenous churches. The different denominations know which of their people need help, and who they have who have fled Mosul and Nineveh. The money is received through our Foundation for Relief and Reconciliation in the Middle East (FRRME) and given through our one Anglican Church in Iraq. So the help is given from Church to Church. The Foundation is a 501C3 in the US and a registered charity in the UK. So people can give in tax beneficial ways.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11016794/40000-Iraqis-stranded-on-Sinjar-mountain-after-Islamic-State-death-threats.html
*ttp://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2014/08/canon-andrew-white-governments-and.html?m=1
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There’s a reason why the young lad has been Celtic’s best player in both legs of the Legia tie, whilst others have not shown anything at all.
I see we don`t have a game on Saturday.
I wonder if we could squeeze in a money-spinning friendly in Kuala Lumpur, Boston, Stockholm, Dublin or Sydney v Man Utd? Every penny counts after all…….
Aye, let’s put in a loan bid for Ryan Gauld!
..apologies, hurting.
Auldheid
23:52 on
6 August, 2014
Dan
The sad thing is I expected what we got. All the signs were there since Lennon left. I watched the first game in hope but saw my fears realised. Tonight only confirmed my judgement alas.
Just too much change in too short a space of time not helped by injuries and players not playing to any form.
But football is a funny game. Remember 3-0 down to Killie? Lenny was doing a Mowbray and Stokes turned the season on its head in 45 minutes.
Ronny is going to have to find the Stokes equivalent of that day.
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Auldheid,
Listening to Ronny’s thoughts when he came to the club his style of play was totally different to Lenny’s style of play. From a team used to slow build up’s and cross balls in Midfield from Lenny to Ronny’s idea of a pressing high tempo game.
A lot of the experienced, senior players in the squad do not fit in to that style of play, and I sensed tonight a frustration from the players, or even an unwillingness, or reluctance to follow the managers instructions, as they simply could not play to that style. Either that or a total breakdown of communication between the manager and the majority of the players, I am not sure.
Perhaps the best way forward for Ronny now is to just go with a handful of the senior squad and bring in the young players and try to mould them to his style of play. Very high risk, and alas I don’t think with his disastrous start so far he will be given the time.
Hope I am wrong in my instincts, but that’s how I see the situation at the moment.
Dan
Mark my words: Ronny Deila will be gone in November and the board will unveil Henrik Larsson as the new manager when his season finishes in Sweden.
It will come to pass (irrespective of how bad a manger he may or may not be)…..but by that stage it may be too late to bring back the numbers that have already given up on this board.
PS It will unlikely make a difference to the state the board have currently got the club in to.
I couldn’t give two hoots if a player doesn’t agree with the manager’s playing style or training methods, the second you step onto the pitch you burst your gut for the fans.
Up like a bird – not my grandchildren -not ever.
oisin71
00:02 on
7 August, 2014
It would be a terrible, terrible mistake.
Oisin71. Dermott was at the Last game at Murrayfield.
Junglejim,
Forster and VvD know they are going. I suspect Commons does too.
Izzy and Griffiths no longer first picks. Bids in for Matthews.
Manager comes in and plays a completely alien set up. The manager now comments that he doesn’t think there is much he could have done differently that would have won the tie and we now need to strengthen. Wtf.
We are told there’s a strategy and that Ronny is a student of the game. he must have missed the classes on playing in Europe and man management then. The players are all over the place and resembled a stag doo the morning after.
This is an utter shambles.
Dan
00:02 on
7 August, 2014
No, I think you’re right. The players that at least looked up to it are young and / or quick. This is the last season we can risk bringing a lot of youngsters into the team at once. It should have been done last season in my opinion.
16th of August is going to be an interesting day in Paradise
Dial R for rubidge.
Sack the Board.
Next Wednesday night the ole tractor boys will be sharpenin’ their ole scythes.
Bang on, weeminger.
Too many of those players had cushy numbers under Lennon. They were allowed too many performances where they weren’t interested. The team has no pace and relies on someone doing something special than teamwork.
Too much sideways passing and then give it to commons, Sami or Forrest to do something while the others stood and watched.
Deila said that he team relied too heavily on Commons and he wanted to change that. Said a lot to me.
The players know they have been found out and this reflected on the performance tonight. Let them go and join Lennon in the pub like old times.
Just read Spiers article
Very good
We’ve not had it bad
Last 2 years CL group stages – last 16 two years back, a feat even the great MON team couldn’t achieve (okay I know 03/04 we were robbed at Lyon but beside he point)
This year, we’re not good enough for CL, run in EL our best bit
Let’s hope for a favourable draw and see us in group stages of EL
My perfect season in Europe is a CL group stage, 3rd place, nice run in EL. Here we have to go that way in the less attractive way, but EL is great for coefficient providing we win the games (same points for a EL win as a CL win)
HH
Some tough teams in the unseeded Europa qualifier section. Feyenoord Torino and a few others. Not a certainty. ESP as sham logic as we appear and even less carrots to attract anyone to join us.