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I was delighted to read the Scottish Government’s clinical director, Jason Leitch, say there are strong advocates from within the Government that football fans will at one point be encouraged to leave pubs when watching games and instead attend in socially distanced numbers at outdoor stadiums.

It will not apparently happen next month, but there may be a trial when the national flags can fly when Scotland team plays in September.

You and I can only wonder when the Government’s scientists will find evidence that an easily policed outdoor arena will become as safe from Covid-19 as thousands of indoor pubs across Scotland.

Pubs, with their drinking, exchange of money, regular toilet use and the legendary increase in judgement that comes after alcohol is consumed, are clearly the safest places to watch football.  If this was not the case, your government would stop fans gathering in them to cheer on their teams and celebrate goals.

And remember, to make watching football in pubs extra safe, the government decided you do not need to wear masks when inside a pub.  Yes, masks are important, but only in shops, if you go to a pub this weekend to watch football, none of those shouting and celebrating will be wearing a mask.

By contrast, football stadiums, with their designated and easily dispersed seating, blanket CCTV monitored from dedicated police facilities, all that outdoor air and with masks used by everyone in a spectator area, are clearly more dangerous to public health than gatherings in pubs.

They would not be able to sell alcohol at football stadiums, so unlike pubs, would need to rely on the sober judgement of spectators to ensure safety procedures were respected.  And I don’t need to tell you how ineffective sober judgement is compared to how easily drunk people find following rules.

To suggest that it is worse (as I stupidly thought) for public health to gather in pubs to watch games this weekend, instead of socially distances in stadiums, is ridiculous.  If this was not the case, what would it say about your governments regard for you or your health?

This is typical of recent politicians’ involvement in football.  Not content will kettling fans, or trying to make political dissent illegal, they are happy to throw the masses they pretend to care about together in pubs at greater risk to public health, rather than actually listen to reason from outside their logic-defying bubble.  Whenever I see these clowns I think of thought-control charlatans.  This is a a farce, the Government know it, football knows it and we all know it.  Those not prepared to admit it should consider how much thought control they are already under.

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  1. England had a couple of county cricket games with spectators – mind you there’s normally only 3 men and a dog at those 🚶🚶🚶🐕

  2. Maybe Paul67’s biggest mistake with today’s article was it was directed towards what he perceives as a stereotypical Celtic supporter. Possibly because he wanted to stimulate debate, which it has done.

     

    Now, I do not apologise for being a socialist, SNP supporting drone from a white Irish Catholic background who apparently exudes negativity and supports the so called Marxist BLM movement and does not believe that attending a football match, which can be seen in the safety of my own home, is more important that maintaining public health.

  3. ALMORE on 30TH JULY 2020 1:59 PM

     

     

    Fáilte roimh Barkas.

     

     

    On returning to Celtic Park for a match day, I can’t see myself attending a game there before 2021, even if the rules are relaxed.

     

     

    Stay safe & HH

     

     

    I agree Almore.

     

    Stay safe overby :-)

     

    HH

  4. Thank goodness we have a politically motivated part-time football blogger to tell us wnat’s best rather than taking guidance and advice from Scotland’s Clinical Director and a team of scientists and infection control experts….

  5. GENE on 30TH JULY 2020 4:08 PM

     

     

    England had a couple of county cricket games with spectators – mind you there’s normally only 3 men and a dog at those 🚶🚶🚶🐕

     

     

    As long as there wisnae any cats going by some research. :-)

     

     

    HH

  6. TURKEYBHOY on 30TH JULY 2020 2:52 PM

     

    Just to finish my bit on this,I think Nicola Sturgeon has every right to do what she thinks is right,she seems to be managing the situation very well at the moment.My only argument,is for a trial in letting vastly reduced numbers inside Stadiums. If its a flop,well,at least you died.

     

     

    There, fixed that for you. 😊

  7. TBB – dontcha know Apollyon is Rising.

     

     

    He isnae a good wan either.

     

     

    Great read.👍

     

     

    Welcome to Celtic Vasilis.👍👍👍👍

  8. Go tell the Spartim on

    I thought BSR would add to his aliases for VB

     

     

    It’s not mine but I liked the tartan Spartan

  9. prestonpans bhoys on

    Gene

     

     

    I could get the point of going to cricket pre all day drinking bars, only place you could but post, well🤔🤔

  10. The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on

    Totally agree, Paul.

     

     

    I’ve been thinking for a few weeks that the whole thing has turned a bit Orwellian.

  11. TBB

     

    ” It encompasses the queue outside, the scrum at the bog, the catering, the pressed congestion on the stairs at full time.

     

    But it also encompasses the supporters buses, the trains, the buses, the shared cars to and from the match, and the risk to other folk who cannot avoid the crowds before and after the match.”

     

     

     

    No need to be sorry. I totally accept disagreement from a fine chap such as yourself.

     

    The `unfounded` to which I was referring were:

     

    a) `The queue outside`. I feel that, with such small numbers as I suggested, queues would be almost non-existent;

     

    b)Supporters busses would ,I am sure, be unfeasible with around 10% of normal travellers;

     

    c) Trains and busses , which are close to empty at the moment, would cope comfotably with the small numbers travelling;

     

    d) Car-sharing, too would mainly be unnecessary;

     

    f). Crowds before and after the match? Possibly but only if a large percentage of the 6,000 are irresponsible.

  12. When Paul67 says jump, wee Nicola says ‘How High?’

     

     

    Schools – Open August 11

     

    Outdoor concerts/comedy (no laughing at the back) August 24.

     

    Same date for Bingo and for Funfairs (the shows in old money)

     

    Sports stadiums (with applied special measures) September 14

     

     

    So maybe 5-6000 at Celtic Park?

     

     

    rageagainstthemachinecsc

  13. Jocks Immortal Lions on

    Welcome Big Hercules, the Athenian Fenian (copyright someone else).

     

     

    Get your trophy cabinet ready.!!

  14. !!Bada Bing!! on

    The BBC has revealed its Sportscene line-up for the Premiership’s big return – and there’s no place for Michael Stewart.

     

     

    Steven Thompson has been installed as the new host of the Sunday show, with Jonathan Sutherland leading Saturday’s broadcast They’ll be joined by guests Marvin Bartley, James McFadden, Craig Gordon, Shelley Kerr, Julie Fleeting and Shaun Maloney.

  15. I only asked as a joke but we are , in fact, Home against Livingston for the first game after Sept 14th,

  16. Phatts and Small – one of the most Iconic Sonics.

     

     

    Got to turn around.😁

     

     

    Incredible TUNE.

     

     

    SPINDIZZY was a unique game.👍

  17. Bada

     

     

    Be interesting to see if Shaun Maloney is from the Tom Boyd school or from Murdo Mcleod`s kitchen.

  18. I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with Leader, but some replies were downright nasty,

     

    Some guys saying Celtic putting money ahead of fan safety.

     

    How does that work?, Season Tickets are sold out money is already in Bank. The additional match day revenue for a crowd of say 5, 000 would e dwarfed by costs of staging event.

     

    Celtic would in fact be losing money on the venture.

     

    The ultimate decision on whether to open Stadia to limited crowds will be taken by the Government,

     

    Paul’s opinion is just that his opinion.

     

    If the Government say yes to limited opening, then each individual fan have their own decision to make.

     

    If you don’t agree with decision or think it’s too risky for you then you don’t go.

     

    No need for all the angst.

  19. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Speak out and tell the truth about the huns in this country, sees you lose your job

  20. !!Bada Bing!! on

    HS- very bland like the rest of them,Michael Stewart best pundit by far,bagged for calling out Traynor

  21. Bada Bing

     

     

    Heard wee Shaun on 5live yest in a special sponsored oldfrimathon were Charlie Adams,uncle Tom and Chris Sutton were on.sutton winding the hubris out o them.good laugh.any word of a defence bolster?

     

     

    HH

  22. Go tell the Spartim on

    If we (as in the collective ) were putting lives / health first then do you think anything would be open until this virus is eradicated. Restrictions are being eased to help the economy in general it’s not for people’s health concerns.

  23. Go tell the Spartim on

    Thankfully Sunset & Vine are employing MS so his openness hasn’t went unnoticed, your Uncle Tim’s will still get gigs on the BBC, Clyde and in the rags, ain’t that right Frank McAvennie

  24. Scotland’s Shame

     

     

    …scoddlands wee sleelkit secret, kept below the radar, hidden in plain sight or just flat oooot obfuscated while hun stooges like the fat gardener or the Tarbolton Scowler make their living fronting-up guff.

  25. One thing I would caution anyone on…. pubs. Indoor + limited space + alcohol + public toilet = too many risks for me. Be safe, please.

     

     

    I’m still dreading the thought of further evidence forthcoming re virus being properly airborne, i.e. 2 metres is not enough of a safe distance; and getting the virus for some may not be seen as a huge problem, but there are worrying reports on lasting effect following recovery as well. Not enough known yet to get proper assessment on that one either.

     

     

    Doom and Gloom ? Appreciate it may sound that way. Just my personal opinion and concern re welfare of everyone.

     

     

    Happy As

  26. Welcome to our new Goalie..Mr Barkas.

     

     

    I know nothing about him, but hopefully he has cat like reflexes , is a great shot stopper…and comes and controls his penalty area, is vocal and is confident in coming and collecting crosses…and is at ease using his feet…if need be ?

     

    That all I am asking VB…

     

    Hopefully, you will be a big part of Celtic making history yet again.

     

    HH

  27. Rock Tree Bhoy on

    GENE on 30TH JULY 2020 3:43 PM

     

     

    It’s amazing how the majority of articles Paul leads with have a handful of related comments – but as soon as it’s a bit political then it’s wall to wall.

     

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    Yip, agree entirely – article probably spiced up to increase the volume of posts – worked a treat – and after all its simply his thoughts on the matter, nothing else.

  28. We’re all only here for Paul67’s opinions so disappointing to see it disrespected.

     

     

    Having said that the article seems to have missed half of the equation. It seems to assume that there a league table of transmission and those with the lowest rates are allowed and those with the highest remain banned. If that was the case we’d have shut the hospitals!

     

     

    The risk of transmission has to be weighed against the benefit of allowing the activity. As the furlough scheme winds down thousands in the hospitality trade faced redundancy. It was crucial to get that moving.

     

     

    The societal benefits of a few thousand going to Celtic Park don’t stack up against the transmission risk as detailed throughout this thread.

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