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Olivier is only explaining the facts

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There’s a good half dozen players I would expect to be agitating for a move than Olivier Ntcham.  His interview in L’Equipe, where he regrets he did not move to Porto last summer and explains how he would blossom at Marseille, and generally, how he is too good for the other teams in Scotland.

The latter assertion may solicit some sympathy, although his timing is off.  We are days away from Champions League qualification and need those who are fit and experience to have their head on the job.

But this is the modern footballer.  They are not here because their Irish grannie told them tales about Charlie Tully.  Celtic provides lots of glory and money, but there are bigger paydays and all but the very few will chase the money, or, if we are being generous, test themselves in a tougher environment.

That’s football, Olivier is only explaining the facts.

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  1. Paul67

     

     

    Poor form putting an article up without saying, and leaving us old dodgers talking to ourselves on the old thread.

     

     

    Gerrybhoy

     

     

    We shouldn’t have dogged it

     

     

    Glendalys / Corkcelt

     

     

    No question that RB is NFL’s top priority.

     

     

    If last seasons failed bid for Timothy Castagne ( now a 25M euros target) is the benchmark then the names bandied about, don’t cut the mustard. Sarajevo and the next side, are manageable, thereafter the moneys is there to buy, and buy big without threatening the wage structure.

     

     

    If last seasons failed bid for Timothy Castagne ( now a 25M euros target) is the benchmark then the names bandied about, don’t cut the mustard. Sarajevo and the next side, are manageable, thereafter the moneys is there to buy, and buy big without threatening the wage structure.

     

     

    Squad fillers give our rivals hope, breaking transfer records brings trophies, (ask Odsonne) and breaks others hearts.

  2. LARSSONSE7EN.

     

     

    OLDTIM

     

     

    When’s your do… would love to do ‘the impossible’ and buy you a drink…

     

     

    You and Martin42 (still standing for the champions) are guys I will never tire listening too

     

    Hail Hail.

     

     

    It’s on the 13th of July, starts in the Blane Valley, and carries on after seven in the bar across the road until shutting time, your welcome to come, about buying me a drink, I’ll be delighted to get you a drink, it’s been a long time since I met you last.

  3. bigrailroadblues on

    Good afternoon all from the Star Bar. The huns are doing well against the Morse and Lewis 11. We’re aw bricking it, so we ur. 🤣

  4. Oldtim

     

    Won’t be back home until August so hopefully be able to meet for a pint.

     

    Papajoe55

     

    Was only 13 or 14 when I visited Arranmore and went in with my dad. There was Celtic pictures all over the walls and my father referred to it as the Celtic bar – it may have had another name. The friends of my parents we visited were named Charlie Boyle and Dom Gallagher. Aye, ah know Boyles and Gallagher’s fae Donegal. 🤣

     

    Sipsini

     

    When’s the Convention?

  5. AN TEARMANN @ 7:12 AM,

     

     

    Thanks for your reply, all’s good, I commented on the last article as it seemed most appropriate.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  6. And just to prove my point

     

     

    CHAIRBHOY on 7TH JULY 2019 4:18 PM

     

     

    AN TEARMANN @ 7:12 AM,

     

     

     

    I’m grand, hope all’s good with you.

     

     

     

    Maybe you are picking me up partially wrong.

     

     

     

    What my head scratch was about, was not the appropriate and fulsome praise our CEO gave to John Keane. I’m sure it was heartfelt and it’s also one of the many things Big Pedro excels at.

     

     

     

    My point really was the comments that seemed to suggest that if a Director, namely John Keane, was worthy of unwavering praise then we should be less critical of our CEO.

     

     

     

    Now the strengths and (perceived;) weakness of our CEO have been discussed on here many times. He is an undoubted controversial figure – whether deserved or not.

     

     

     

    My question was really; is there substance to those posters who brought PL onto the thread, with regard to his involvement with John Keane (which as you say, PL has been around as a Celtic supporter for quite some time), or is this to do with the said posters pushing forward the PL agenda, to present our CEO in reflective glory?

     

     

     

    Now it could be there is real and genuine part our CEO played in this and PL deserves credit in this regard. Yet it seemed to be Dermot Desmond that Mr Keane singled out for praise.

     

     

     

    Then we had Fergus McCann confirming John Keane’s pivotal role.

     

     

     

    So my point was, what part did Peter Lawwell play in this?

     

     

     

    Hail Hail

  7. After browsing the blog the last few days I’ve reached one certain conclusion…

     

    I don’t blame the schools!

  8. BSR @ 4:38 PM,

     

     

    And what is your point? Your trying to strengthen your old d[c]odgers argument;))))

     

     

    BTW: Had some cousins that went to Holy Cross – they never told me what a den of iniquity is was:)))

     

     

    Hail Hail

  9. Fool Time Whistle on

    So as far as I can make out..

     

     

    The Holy Cross Doggers Club has the following members

     

     

    Gerrybhoy

     

    Starry Plough

     

    WeeBobbyCollins

     

    FairhillBhoy

     

    BourneSoupRecipe

     

    Fool Time Whistle

     

    The Unthank Road

     

    Westcraigs

     

    JockTim

     

    Friesdorfer

     

    EmeraldBee\O/ Still Proud to be an Internet Bampot*

     

    Hunderbirds ar Gone’s big sister – possibly

     

    NOT Prestonpans Bhoy

     

     

    *EmeraldBee as pupil and teacher.

     

     

    Add your name if you were there

     

     

    HH

  10. Fool Time Whistle on

    GERRYBHOY on 7TH JULY 2019 1:43 PM

     

    WEEBOBBYCOLLINS on 7TH JULY 2019 1:13 PM

     

     

    Maurice Pierce was a French & Spanish teacher at Holy Cross in Hamliton.

     

    He lived in East Kilbride.

     

     

    When I had him, he didn’t have the pencil moustache but he did have the slicked back hair.

     

    He was a man who liked languages but hated children so he was the teacher from whom I learned the least.

     

     

    My group at HC (very looslely) included Billy Regan, Mick O’Neill & John Drummond from East Kilbride. Knew Kevin Rush from EK, also Neil Mochan.

     

    And Brian Rafferty, Benny Docherty from Hamilton.

     

    And a bunch of boys from Rutherglen Brian McKenna, Willie Carmichael, Brian Donatello, Joe Brown, Hugh McGrath (Halfway?)

     

    Peter Cairney from Cathkin.

     

     

    Just names that some might know.

     

     

    HH

  11. Hunderbirds are Gone on

    FTW

     

    I can confirm that my big sister was a definite attendee at HCH. Old school though, I think she would have left around 1967.

     

    🍀⚽️

  12. FOOL TIME WHISTLE on 7TH JULY 2019 5:04 PM

     

     

    Brian Donatello drank in vogue for years (then had to go home for his tea) I have not spoken to him for a while but,passed him in car a few weeks ago…so he is still kicking about.

  13. Fool Time Whistle on

    Hunderbirds ar Gone

     

     

    Thanks – I was at the old school too.

     

    …………..

     

     

    Voguepunter

     

     

    Brian was a really nice guy, played guitar & did a wee bit singing.

     

    Just as i started to learn to play, he was in the same clasroom as me towards the end of term. You know when teachers had invigilating duties & papers to mark etc, so yoo’d often be left on your own until the bell.

     

    In that class that day, Brian was playing around with an acoustic guitar – later realized he was tuning it – then he started playing the intro to House of the Rising Sun and youn could have heard a pin drop.

     

    We were all in awe ..

     

     

    HH

  14. Fool Time Whistle on

    SAINT STIVS on 7TH JULY 2019 5:26 PM

     

    guess what school i went to ?

     

    ….

     

     

    Aye, but were you a dogger?

     

     

    ;o}}}

  15. FOOL TIME WHISTLE on 7TH JULY 2019 5:33 PM

     

    SAINT STIVS on 7TH JULY 2019 5:26 PM

     

     

     

     

    guess what school i went to ?

     

     

    Aye, but were you a dogger?

     

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    I dogged Trinity for two years ,on a whim I went back one day…and got six of the belt..WTF!

     

    Crime and punishment :O(

  16. CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 7TH JULY 2019 5:18 AM

     

     

    The hand of/fool time…,The teachers need to go through the Catholic teaching system a separate college which includes a fain amount of religious instruction that provides the framework for religious guidance suitable for Catholic children , I’m no sure but I doubt if the Catholic teachers colleges discriminate against who can apply/enter their courses as that would be sectarian. The end result is that all teachers at Catholic schools are qualified to provide religious guidance to the pupils.

     

     

    *that just about sums it up, I had a neighbour, who eventually became deputy head at a local convent high school, I recall her mother telling me the toughest exams she took at teacher training college, possibly Notre Dame Dowanhill, were the religious ones which she had to pass before being allowed to teach at a Catholic School.

     

     

    We get most of our religion at primary school, whereas at high school, where non-Catholics often teach, there are usually designated teachers for RK classes, as such the teachers at primary have to be qualified to teach the faith to the weans.

     

     

    Don’t forget we make 3 sacraments at primary and none that I know of at high school.

  17. The hand of God on

    Canamalar….sorry mate just caught up with your response from this morning to my post about teachers….when my wife was applying to go to university Glasgow University did the course for teachers for catholic schools and Strathclyde university at Jordanhill was for non denominational schools.My wife applied to both and was informed by Glasgow university that she would be better off going to Jordanhill as she was a non catholic.Would seen a bit strange that as 16% of Scotland’s population is catholic that there would be a surplus of catholic teachers.I attended St Augustines in Milton and received little in the way of religious education and I feel that having separate schools in this day and age is quite pointless and a waste of precious resources surely if religion is important to anyone it can be taught at home or through whatever church one cares to attend.I feel it is a form of discrimination against non catholic schoolteachers who are not considered for jobs through the entire school system.Im always pointing out how Scottish society is often biased against Catholics particularly of an Irish background of which I am one I also am a proud Irish passport holder but wanted to point out an issue that I consider discriminatory…anyway sorry for waffling and Hail Hail to you.

  18. The hand of God on

    Sorry Canamalar it may have been Fool time whistle who was mentioning the course for catholic teachers sorry if there was a mix up somewhere.

  19. Ntcham knewa he is away si is being frank and letting clubs knoe the score. We will get about £10 millionfor him.

     

     

    If rogic wants to go i would sell rogic too.

     

     

    Cant see tk staying if celtic get the corrwct offer and that seems very likely.

     

     

    My prediction, celtic will bring in £40 million on transfers out and will spent about £20 million on new players. folk will be annoyed becausr of no net spend.

  20. CATHACH on 5TH JULY 2019 11:54 PM

     

     

    As others have mentioned, I find it so sad that some post and continually criticize the Celtic board, in particular Peter Lawwell, some have their own agenda in Australia, but others do not consider the consequences of having no money in the bank. Scottish banks would have gladly pulled the plug. Let’s hear no more about heated driveways, puerile, uneducated piffle.

     

     

    *Well said CAT, OT67, Doc and Bankiebhoy1, as you say the antipodean has his agenda and it’s not hidden either, he has mentioned PL’s previous employment so I take it he had a family member(s) involved there. Still this is not the forum for casting aspersions.

     

     

    As for the others, either hunterlopers or attention seekers, as the Bunnet said: “Being a Celtic supporter is not always easy, but it is always worthwhile.”

     

     

    He also said: “As Celtic fans, we can be proud of ourselves and what we have achieved in our life, because what we have achieved has been achieved on our own merits. We haven’t had to join any secret organisation in life to get where we are today, and that’s important to you.”

     

     

    And that’s what we should NEVER forget, I’m now in my eighth decade and have seen the highs and lows and this, and I’ll say it without fear of contradiction, is the best time I can ever recall and that includes hunden in the sun, Lisbon and our own honest and untainted NIAR.

  21. ” Rainjurz are prepared to listen to offers of around £20M for Morelos ”

     

     

    The Sunday Post ( yes it’s still published )

     

     

    BBBBBBBWWWWWWHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAA. CSC

  22. Fool Time Whistle on

    TONTINE TIM on 7TH JULY 2019 5:44 PM

     

    CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 7TH JULY 2019 5:18 AM

     

     

    Thanks for your comments on this. Not entirely sure this is the forum for discussing it but…

     

     

    The issue was not that untrained teachers should be allowed to teach in any school – NonDenom or Catholic.

     

    It was that the system was loaded against those primary school teachers who were not Catholic & who were never going to be able to compete on a level playing field for all teaching positions with Catholic teachers.

     

     

    Here’s the original post that prompted my intial comment.

     

     

    THE HAND OF GOD on 7TH JULY 2019 12:14 AM

     

    Interesting reading on catholic schools…my wife is a primary school deputy head teacher and as a non catholic she cannot apply for a job at a catholic school yet teachers who are catholic can freely apply for jobs in “non denominational schools”.Seems a bit unfair (even discriminatory) to me.Does it seem unfair to anyone else.

     

     

    ………..

     

     

    If this situation was reversed would Catholic teachers think it unfair?

     

    In other words, if non Catholic teachers could apply for positions in Catholic schools but Catholic teachers were not allowed to apply for positions in Non Catholic schools: I believe it would be deplored.

     

     

    I recognize that Catholic teachers will have had the additional “religious” element in their training, but if I were a non Catholic teacher I would feel I was being discriminated against because I wasn’t Catholic.

     

    I am denied the opportunity to secure the same teaching credentials purely on religious grounds and then find that I am disadvantaged in the job market because of that training that is denied to me – on religious grounds.

     

     

    Bringing it back to football, there is a wonky comparison that we’re all familiar with..

     

     

    Players of all religions and none could play for Celtic, but players of one religion were not allowed to play for another Glasgow team – before Uefa shook that other team up.

     

     

    Not entirely comparable I know, but you get the point.

     

     

    HH

  23. Apparently Arbroath beat a Celtic team 1-0 today.I was not aware of this fixture.

     

     

    JJ

  24. MILD MANNERED PEDRO DELGADO on 5TH JULY 2019 6:33 PM

     

     

    Was Recounting a tale to my youngest the other day of a time I worked with a guy called John Glass who hailed from Cumbernauld. Nice fella, John, was the great grandson of John Glass, one of the original Celtic fc “committee “.

     

     

    *John Glass as Wullie Maley once said was the man to whom Celtic its very existence, Brother Walfrid may have founded the club but John Glass established it.

     

     

    He was the mhan that Brother Walfrid sent down tae the Back Street in the Renton with the instructions “No Kelly No Keltic” and he literally camped out on his doorstep until the great mhan, who had turn down the Hibbees as he did not want tae leave his native Renton, agreed tae sign for us.

     

     

    After losing James and Neilly McCallum to us as well as others moving down south World Champions Renton’s secretary Peter Fairley approached the other 11 clubs in an effort to introduce professionalism to the game north of the border, only Queens Park refused and so the SFL was born, the other clubs, including deidco, then requested that John Glass take over initially tae get it off the ground. He was the Peter Lawwell of his time.

  25. FOOL TIME WHISTLE on 7TH JULY 2019 6:29 PM

     

    TONTINE TIM on 7TH JULY 2019 5:44 PM

     

    CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 7TH JULY 2019 5:18 AM

     

     

    Thanks for your comments on this. Not entirely sure this is the forum for discussing it but…

     

     

    The issue was not that untrained teachers should be allowed to teach in any school – NonDenom or Catholic.

     

     

    It was that the system was loaded against those primary school teachers who were not Catholic & who were never going to be able to compete on a level playing field for all teaching positions with Catholic teachers.

     

     

    *I honestly never knew that non-Catholic teachers taught at Catholic primary schools, then again I’m almost 60 years out of primary school so I guess it must have changed since then, hmmm interesting situation.