Pot 4, decline of the Spanish empire


A cursory look at our fellow pot 4 Champions League teams shows the extent of the challenge.  Six of the eight teams lost: Steaua Bucharest (3-0), Austrian Vienna (0-1), Celtic (2-0), Real Sociedad (0-2), Plzen (0-3), Anderlecht (2-0).

Copenhagen got one of the better results of the night, a 1-1 draw at home to Italian champions, Juventus, while Napoli, who split Juve and Milan in the Italian league last season, but are still a pot 4 team, recorded the only bottom tier win, a 2-1 victory over last season’s finalists, Borussia Dortmund.

Napoli are in a different category than the rest but Celtic are in with a decent chance of out-performing others from pot 4.

Sociedad’s home reversal to Shakhter Donetsk, who are going through a rebuilding process was a shock, but Valencia’s 0-3 Europa League defeat to Swansea indicates a worrying scenario for Spanish football below the uber-indebted Barca and Real Madrid.  As a general rule, anything which undermines one of the economically powerful football nations should be welcomed by those disenfranchised by the size of their TV market (that’s us).

Shakhtar Karagandy put in a credible performance before going down 2-1 in Greece, a far better showing than Elfsborg’s 4-0 collapse in Salzburg.  Best of luck to the Kazaks.

I’ve been going to the football long enough to remember black players being booed whenever they touched the ball.  The phenomenon seemed to arrive here in the late 70s and faded around a decade later, although such is human nature I don’t think complacency is appropriate.  Homophobia is a different matter.

‘Out’ gay footballers are so rare I don’t know what the reaction would be at a match but the crowd-bullying phenomenon which can exist in the game makes any minority vulnerable.  The first step is to explain to the hard-of-thinking what they are doing, and the error of their ways.

Can rainbow coloured laces change the world?  Stonewall have distributed rainbow coloured laces to every player in the UK, asking them to wear them this weekend.  We’ll not see the WAGs acronym become WAGSABAH overnight but it feels like an appropriate, colourful, first step.

Keep reaching for that rainbow, Celtic.

1254125 at The Great Scottish Run.

On Sunday 6 October there is a 10k and Half Marathon.  If that is beyond you. There are family events taking place the day before. This is your club, remind the world of what really counts and get involved in 1254125.

The first thing you need to do is sign up for the Great Scottish Run, or here for one of the family events.

Once you’ve done that, you can register for the 1254125 campaign here.

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  1. Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act (2012) in 2012-13; 268 charges but only 87 convictions.



    Has there been one charge or conviction for the offences described as Threatening Communications under this Act?

  2. Question..



    How much wid You..as a Manager of Anither Fitba’ Club..



    Be willing tae Shell Oot..



    Tae obtain the Services of



    Joe Ledley?



    And… Same Question…



    Tae Obtain the Services of…







    Noo..If Ah wur a Fitba Manager.. and that question wiz pit tae me.



    Ma Answers go something , like These.



    Zilch ..fur Ledley..






    Ditto.. Fur Broonie.



    Baith of these guys are No Celtic Class..



    and.. If ye Wanna Improve oor Midfield..



    We Should Get Shot of Them..






    That Question Remains..



    Who the Hell Wid Pay the Freight, fur us tae get shot o Eethur Wan..



    All the Above is Ma Opinion..






    Ah am Being..



    Brutally.. Honest..





    Still, Laughin’

  3. hendrix67 @15:59



    She might not turn up tmrw and if she doesn’t, I’ll meet you for a wee session!



    Good luck – see you tmrw night




  4. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family




    16:11 on 20 September, 2013






    Well tomorrow is Saturday… O))






    yes, i was on the last thread talking to myself for about two hours this morning… about yes, a good fry up….Friday here so the weeknd starts today, day early for you guys..

  5. .



    Lennon: “We’ve lacked a Champions League goalscorer since I took over. We haven’t had that since Henrik Larsson. They cost a lot of money and they’re hard to find.”



    Think l just heard some Plates getting Smashed..;-)



    Summa of SammisSmashingBouzoukiCSC

  6. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on




    Read it. Noticed tbj was giving you help.



    He is the biggest sausage expert in the g72 area..

  7. Summa of Sammi….



    16:22 on 20 September, 2013






    Lennon: “We’ve lacked a Champions League goalscorer since I took over. We haven’t had that since Henrik Larsson. They cost a lot of money and they’re hard to find.”



    Think l just heard some Plates getting Smashed..;-)



    Summa of SammisSmashingBouzoukiCSC







    :)) Enlightenment, a series of lights going off.

  8. aye Kojo ,it is a funny old world…hang on to that thread and you,ll no go far wrong …I can imagine you as a Braw Human Bean…long may you jump laddie …Braw !

  9. In talking about the lack of a CL goalscorer, I think Lenny is drawing attention away from his big tactical error on Wednesday night. After 75 minutes there was a point for the taking if he had decided to shut up shop, but instead he brought on 2 strikers (Boerigter and Pukki) for what was basically 2 midfielders (Commons and Mathews). This left Brown and Mulgrew as our midfield. Zapata got lucky with his shot, but he should not have been given the room to shoot.


    This was indeed a missed opportunity to get a good point in Milan.



    (I should point out that I love Lenny and think the team is making great progress under him.)

  10. Pod-I



    If she doesn’t turn up shes locked out, she went away today without her key. Told you she would.

  11. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS forza Oscar and Mackenzie on




    No Brown,no Ledley equals no drive and no class.

  12. My Dear Friend…..Kojo



    I Think That Some Time Ago…..



    A Newspaper Report Suggested That Forrest Had A ‘Disc’ Problem….



    This Condition Will Not Be Helped By The Violent On-Pitch Assaults….



    Which Bring Him Crashing To The Turf…



    I Fear We Have Already Seen The Best Of James Forrest….



    And His Career May End Prematurely….



    As Happened To That Of The Excellent Ipswich & England Defender….



    Kevin Beattie….



    And Also To The England Captain Of The Day….



    Gerry Francis….Of QPR…



    Who Once Combined To Put Five Goals Past The Hapless Scottish Hun Goalkeeper,Stewart Kennedy……



    Back In The Day…








    By Jings..!!



    Ah Can Remember A Time…..




    When Awe_Naw & Maggie McGill…..



    Were Edgy,Dangerous….And Supremely Entertaining……



    Ah Blame ‘Big Pharma’……



    For Getting On Top Of Their More Florid Symptoms….








  13. bournesouprecipe




    16:26 on 20 September, 2013




    Two of CQN’s best -Flouncers





    I just bought a double pack of double black an all i got was a free 35ml o’ bushmills..



    why did i no get one of those….!!

  14. Reading Lenny tonight saying,”Yes we need a top goalscorer,but we dont have,£20-30 million to buy one”.Dont want to go over old ground,but how is this for goalscoring,



    This season——-played 5—-goals 8


    Internationals—–played 1—–goals 1




    Last season





    Internationals,played–4——-Goals 2



    The goalscoring record of Alfred Finnbogason.



    Can anyone really tell me he was not worth £5 million,considering we paid almost £4 million for Pukki and Balde?.We reportedly offered £3 then backed off.

  15. 79caps,



    You may well be right but hindsight is marvellous, if Neil had a gameplan, which it looked like he did going by his bench, I’m not going to criticise him for going for it.



    Kojo was the first one calling for the East End Wall to be built away frae hame but I just don’t think it is in the Celtic DNA to play for a draw and hope to get lucky.



    Willie Maley.csc

  16. Hendrix67 Is that your way of telling us you are going to miss the match tomorrow. Very poor excuse if you ask me.



    Best of luck m8, have a great day and a great life together. Hail Hail.

  17. bournesouprecipe



    16:27 on 20 September, 2013,



    Worked beside a bloke when they first came on the market.



    Unbeknown to him they to took a while to become effective…he took five.



    Ended up in the A&E. nurses with the hammer at the ready.

  18. Summa of Sammi






    Champion League Goal scorers are NOT HARD to FIND.







    They Cost Too Much.



    and While Ah am No Oan the Subject..



    Neil,should Instruct his Scouts






    Stoap Trying tae Bring in Big Shambling Target Men..



    who kin be Had Oan the Cheap



    Fur, Big Shambling Target Men Who Kin Play a Bit.. Cost Too Much.



    We are Spinning oor Wheels. Wasitng Time and Money…



    Trying tae Get a Big Shamblin Target Man, oan the Cheap



    Celtic, should go Oot and Try tae Find




    a .. Medium Sized Striker..and furget aboot this Big Shamblin Target Man Obsession that Neil and his Compatriots seem tae Want.



    Awe we need is A Striker who is Average Sized..and






    Run Like a Linty, Score fur Fun, with Eethur Fit, his Heid or his Bahookey,


    whichever is Handiest,at the time.



    and the wids are Full of Guys like Those.



    Fur instance…



    Why don’t we sign.. that Inverness Youngster..?



    Ah am sure that he wid dae a Joab..



    Much bettah than .. the Strikers that We hiv brought in. the Last Few Seasons.



    with the exception of Hoops..



    and.. Hoops didnae coast that Much eethur.. Did He..???




    Ah tell ye… the Type of Striker that we need..


    Is oot there..



    And kin be bought oan the Cheap tae..






    Ah am afraid that Neil Has a Hankering fur . Big, Shamblin Target Men..


    and A Good Wan of those..



    Certainly Disnae Come Cheaply.







  19. Morrissey the 23rd on

    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo @ 08:43



    I remember reading a book of Dad’s by Fred Hoyle that convinced me their was incoming life from other parts of the universe coming in from comets.



    Re: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo and Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles meet-up for a Weißbier or 2 *Very jealous*



    Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles @ 09:59


    The Spivs are More Than Heroes To Me.



    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo @ 10:30


    Your simple arithmetic is wilfully awful.



    Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles @ 10:37


    The weather is also much better.



    Turkeybhoy @ 10:43


    Those who subscribe to BT should cancel and give this as there reason, otherwise you are BUYING into this is the same Rangers myth.



    ACGR Supporting BMCUWP’s Hootenannay, 28th Sept in Fun City @ 10:57


    If they have been punished then how come they are the same club (sic-k) with the same history and the creditors haven’t been paid. I could go on and on but you all get the general idea.



    The Spirit Of Arthur Lee @ 11:31


    That was grrough.



    RE P67 Article – I reckon the point of the rainbow laces is to show support to the player too afraid to come out.


    It is a tiny small step to a huge issue.



    Turkeybhoy @ 13:51


    All of us should use Rangers when referring the the dead club and The International Rangers when referring to the tribute act.



    Dontbrattbakkinanger @ 14:16


    McChuills would be a great starting point before heading down to The Barras.



    Repost – A Stor Mo Chroi @ 14:21


    What are your views on the side letter Paul67?



    What are Celtic’s views on the side letter?



    Maybe the side letter meant hee-haw.



    Repost – A Stor Mo Chroi @ 14:29


    Will somebody go on record and unequivocally state that Celtic were not aware of the ‘five way agreement’ and the SPL ‘side letter’?



    Do you know anything about this?



    A Stor Mo Chroi @ 14:57


    Did Sevco refuse to sign it and the SFA went ahead giving them a license anyway?



    Repost – A Stor Mo Chroi @ 15:03


    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo :



    So either Celtic were complicit or they were ‘duped’, and Paul67 hasn’t got a clue what is going on, or we have a nice wee deceitful conspiracy ongoing and so many are spoilt they can’t possibly come clean or even go to confession.



    RWE @ 15:21


    Any evidence to support your opinion?



    weeminger @ 15:47


    I can see any of the clubs accepting something they were not givin all the details for


    If they were not given all the details then they were cheated. I’ve not heard any clubs complain about that.



    Repost – A Stor Mo Chroi @ 15:58





    Do you have an opinion on the ‘purported’ – 5 way agreement – the ‘SPL Side letter’ and the silence of the Tims?



    hendrix67 @ 15:59


    Good luck! Look after each other.

  20. petec @ 16.35


    Whether or not it’s hindsight doesn’t matter. If the game plan was to go for a win, he should have changed it to going for a draw. After all, that would have been an excellent result. A win was not imperative. I think Lenny is great for the club but he needs to be more pragmatic IMO. But it was great to see a Celtic team having so much possession in a difficult away match in Europe.

  21. Maybe I’m right, maybe I’m wrong, but I’d be amazed if Celtic PLC were not aware of the ‘5 way agreement’ and I’m struggling to believe they were not aware of the ‘SPL Side Letter’.

  22. Morrissey the 23rd on

    corkcelt @ 16:39


    In a past life. The morning after I was married, I went to a game at Celtic Park.

  23. leftclicktic oscar in our thoughts on



    Admit your wrong even when your right and most importantly remember the two secret words YES DEAR :))




  24. Kojo Maybe we have got the guy you are looking for in Pukki



    Morrissey the 23rd. I’m intrigued with your Paulesque67 type of posting. By the time you comment the guys you are addressing are most likely logged off or have forgotten what they were on about in the first place. Its a bit unique but it would be hard to conduct a debate with you.

  25. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Address to TBJ-



    Fair fa’ your honest, sonsie face,


    Great chieftain o’ the G72 puddin’-race!

  26. A Stor Mo Chroi


    16:43 on


    20 September, 2013


    Maybe I’m right, maybe I’m wrong, but I’d be amazed if Celtic PLC were not aware of the ’5 way agreement’ and I’m struggling to believe they were not aware of the ‘SPL Side Letter’.



    Not knowing about it is pretty damning also.Had Eric Reilly gone blind and deaf?.Would the powers that be really take the gamble that none of this would come out?.

  27. Bobby Murdoch etc



    See..whit Ah mean?



    Why YOU dinnae Agree wi Ma assement of the Worth of Ledley and Broonie tae


    the Celtic Cause..







    Because ..



    Your Opinion of Their Worth.. Differs fae Mine!




    Ah Believe that They hiv..



    NAE DRIVE. whatsoever..




    Broonie,is a Headless Chicken.. Most of the Time..



    Ledley..is As Slow as Molasses.. and his Demeanour , ALL of the Time…



    Could be described, as…being ..


    Torpid.. and Markedly so..




    Which is the word that Maist oan here. Mean. when,instead, they mistakenly… Use the Word








    Still, Laughin

  28. 79caps 16:43,



    I hear what you are saying, I can’t find anything to disagree with either but it is Neil’s decisions, he has certainly earned the right to make them, IMO.



    He’s a youngster in managerial terms and boxing clever with the Giants of the Footballing game. This Club is moving ahead so well despite the most arduous of challenges. We need to get the Scottish game back up where it belongs, especially now that the evil has been exposed theMalignant Spirit is being exorcised.