You know what happened. Celtic fans celebrated our league win in the city centre on Saturday. In contrast to the carnage that visited the city a year earlier, there were no serious incidents and, by Police Scotland’s own statement, there were only minor issues to deal with. Forget the facts, that’s not the impression some people want to give the world about Celtic fans.
We can speculate that the Herald/Times journalist who yesterday wrote on Twitter, “Glasgow’s city centre has been left in a total state this morning. Broken glass, cans rubbish all over the place. It’s worse than my pics can show” was motivated to a specific end.
The four photos which accompanied his Tweet showed overwhelmingly tidy streets. Streets that appear tidier than on any average Sunday morning. As far as smear attempts go, this one was laughable. If you cannot find photos of “rubbish all over the place”, don’t put photos up showing the opposite!
A year ago, Scottish Government minister, Patrick Harvie, criticised Newco fans for their trashing of Glasgow and received the kind of backlash you would expect. Like a self-seeking politician, he was itching to show equivalence yesterday.
Responding to the laughable Tweet showing tidy streets, Harvie, declared, “I don’t care which football team wins anything, or whether someone else behaved worse last time or not. Trashing the city centre, and other behaviour I saw yesterday, is unacceptable. Show some respect for your city and the people you share it with.”
This was a deliberate attack on you and me by a government minister to satisfy his own ends. Harvie and his cabal are not even ‘green’ in the political sense. He publicly celebrated his First Minister buddy when she failed to call on the Westminster government to scrap the Cambo oil field.
Harvie even went after Greenpeace, when they had the temerity to criticise the Scottish First Minister, surely a unique moment in ‘green’ politics. If he cannot convince Greenpeace of his green credentials, you have to wonder what his motivations are (note: it appears to be transgender politics).
A deliberate act of throwing Celtic fans reputation under the bus without any justification is appalling behaviour for a government that should always act impartially, not seek false equivalence. Celtic fans will no longer sit back and be abused like this by a low-rent ideologue.
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TMcL @ 6.18
If I am “stoopid” then educate me.
Everyday is a school-day.
Live and learn.
Am I alone in being thankful that Ange did not break up the highly successful pairing of Carter-Vickers & Starfelt, by playing Jullien?
My memory of CJ is that of a player who could successfully ping a long diagonal pass to a team mate. Decent at times in the art of defending. But also capable of being out-muscled by opposing forwards (Dykes @ Livi comes to mind).
I also remember, all to frequently, describing Jullien as resembling a giraffe on skates when he was having a poor game.
In Ange I trust.
If you also have faith in Ange’s judgement, and you know that Ange has seen Jullien in training (and then deems him to be a poorer bench option than Welsh), I have to ask the question…
Why are so many on here questioning Ange’s judgement/decision to not play Jullien, or put Jullien higher up the pecking order?
I don’t get it.
HH
When is a Unionist not a Unionist in the context of the UK?
Welcome to the world of pre-match penalty shoot-outs CSC
Toaty Trumper @ 6.19
OMG — your “casual racism” alter ego is back in play.
Not good — please spare us the moon howling.
CMG @ 6.23
All the pointers suggest that CJ’s head has left the building and is pining for a return to France.
For whatever reason he has given up on us and is looking elsewhere for next season. No idea why — in footballing terms — but he always came across as being a bit of a diva / over emotional.
You get the impression that there is not a big enough audience of French speakers in the dressing room to keep him at P/head.
AP deals with him every day so if he doesn’t play him then there must be a reason.
MADMITCH
Nobody said the Tories instigated sectarianism in Scotland. MMCARTNEY said they took advantage of it.
It takes some level of naivety to attack a poster for praising someone else’s post.
Rangers reject proposals for Old Firm game in Australia.
Celtic follow on.
Rangers cut allocation of Old Firm away tickets.
Celtic follow on.
Rangers decide when postponed new year Old Firm clash will be rescheduled.
Celtic fall into line.
Rangers huns celebrate blocking Tim 10 in a row title win in city centre leaving the place like a litter strewn dump last year.
Celtic fans followed on on Saturday.
Rangers and Celtic agree to retain Old Firm ticket prices in 2016 this was 4 years ‘AFTER’ every Celtic blog had told us 24/7 from 2012 – 2016 that Rangers died and a new club now plays at Ibrox.
Celtic fans bought same priced Old Firm tickets in 2016 ‘AFTER’ telling the world that the Rangers Same Club claim is a lie but Celtic supporters bought these tickets then sang songs about Rangers not being Rangers anymore.
Confusing eh.
I’d call it a Scottish schools issue.
These Celtic supporters still sing “LOOKING DOWN ON THE RANGERS.”
I mean tell me that Celtic aren’t the Green cheek of the Old Firm ass after reading this.
Celtic supporters are now lying about the piles of thrash that they left on the streets on Saturday.
Rangers lie.
Celtic follow on.
Rangers supporters featured in pictures on Twitter etc with them being drunk and pissed all down the front of their trousers last year.
Celtic supporters followed on on Saturday.
Stand alone club?
Can I please request paul67 to comment or research..
A local team which has tried very hard in the past few years to achieve senior football status finally achieved that goal by winning their intermediate league 3 weeks ago
However there was an issue with the registration for one of their players
They were docked points
Unlike the cheats
For each game he played
Unlike the cheats
14 games
0 3 defeats
42 points
The cheats were never docked a single point over almost 10 years
The team in question?
Belfast celtic
ET political journo who suddenly became Inspector Gadget regarding litter in Glesga at the weekend has come an embarrassing cropper regarding his Twitter environment / connections.
Seems to following the O/O and other niche NI based religious / political groups with a focus and intensity that goes well beyond his job responsibilities.
Not sure if he a secret glove puppet of said organisations or he just shares an agenda now and then but his sudden interest in litter starts to make sense.
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 16TH MAY 2022 5:27 PM
MADMITCH
I know a great deal more about Scottish history than you do.
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You’re a member of the SNP who’d never heard of Arthur Donaldson.
Which suggests your knowledge of Scottish history is a little sketchy.
Call me Gerry.
Wee thing to do with Celtic👇 enjoy as I hope you did Saturday.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/how-big-ange-won-over-celtic-fans-and-conquered-scotland-20220515-p5aled.html
HH
Were Rogic and Bitton advised testimonials wont be possible because Celtic PLC know that there are more lockdowns on the way via W.H.O. being elevated to levels that supersedes any national government authority in sneaky obscure deals that have been agreed upon from “most” national governments away from the majority of media reporting, and any coverage of these agreements would’ve had a detrimental effect on season ticket sales?
ERNIE LYNCH
I’m a member of the SNP?
News to me.
SCULLYBHOY on 16TH MAY 2022 6:24 PM
‘When is a Unionist not a Unionist in the context of the UK?’
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When the context is a discussion about membership of the European Union and the consequences it might have for a United Ireland, and the influence that a delegation from the United States might bring to bear.
All different connotations about what is involved in economic and political Unions.
All the more so on a message board that is used by Scottish nationalists, a political creed that was never a friend to Celtic supporters, to promoted their knuckle headed notion that support for a united Ireland precludes preferring Scotland remaining a member of the UK, notwithstanding that this was the settled political position of generations of Celtic fans throughout decade after decade of turbulent events in Ireland from before the Rising right through to the end of the Troubles.
Celtic Trust suffers from personality disorder
A ‘no confidence’ motion for tomorrow’s Trust AGM, suggests that the Celtic Trust suffers from a personality disorder. A lack of objectives or an action plan by longstanding officers highlights that the Trust cannot decide if it’s a shareholders group, a fans campaign or a can-rattling charity.
Tomorrow the Celtic Trust conducts its AGM. They are generally dry affairs. The Trustees like it that way. Their sole moment of relevance is the PLC AGM in November when they can berate the Board and, in times past, Peter Lawwell.
Like many shareholders I got involved in late 2019 in when 10-in-a-row season was obviously lost. It was a fertile recruiting period for the Trust and membership which had been at around 300-500 mark increased to over 1,000 during 2021.
Along with many newcomers I offered my services. My background is as a journalist and corporate communications manager. I wanted to offer my professional advice to help the Trust build its voice and visibility.
Before getting involved, I was always surprised how the Trust seemed to punch below its weight. After all, with 1,000 members providing a solid income at around £60,000 per year, and plenty of financial reserves, there seemed to be nothing stopping the trust becoming a major influence among the fans and on the club.
Potentially, there are 25-30,000 shareholders, there are 60,000 fans and there is a fanbase family of millions.
But the last meeting (March 2022) of the Trust had many of the same faces in charge, but just 30 people attending: Not even enough for a quorum.
I now have some ideas why the Trust punches below its weight.
The facts don’t lie:
• Less than 0.5% shareholding
• Less than 1,000 members and falling
• Irrelevant to the PLC Board
• No strategic plan
• No recruitment plan
• No fundraising plan
Recently the Trust came up with a plan for a shadow board. It really is ironic as the reality is we have a shadow Trust. Sure, it has been involved in successes for fans, in stadium facilities and in working with other Celtic groups.
But the reality is the Trust has a personality disorder. It does not know if it’s a membership organisation (for shareholders) a campaigning organisation for fans or a charity for good causes. It has run successful campaigns, but it takes its own members and finances for granted.
Last year new recruits worked on a paper version of the shareholder register. The PLC board refused an electronic version. It was poured over and names and addresses were entered on a spreadsheet (The registered does not contain emails, only postal addresses.)
The shareholder committee identified 12,000 shareholders with more than 500 shares and 4,000 with more than 10 shares. A mailout would cost around £2,500 albeit with no guarantee of success.
The trustees rejected the proposal to spend any money and instead tried to crowdfund the tactic. It was really amateurish to see this play out. An organisation bringing in £60k asking non-members fans to pay for letter and stamps.
Then, prior to the PLC AGM in November, the Trustees were forced to scramble outside Parkhead for signatures for motions that had been adopted at a meeting in the summer.
I don’t wish to embarrass people individually, but these incidents are typical of group who collectively lack leadership skills, are scared to invest in the organisation and, frankly, have been at the helm for far too long. An irrelevance to the PLC board who treat the Trust with contempt because of the amateurism.
At key moments in the last year – the failed Eddie Howe negotiations, the departure of CEO Peter Lawwell, the departure of Dominic McKay, the internal appointment of Michael Nicholson, the poor showing and Europa Cup exit – the Trust had nothing publicly to say on these PLC-related failures. Mental health awareness is laudable but it’s hardly core business for Trust.
The Trust lacks a strategy and an action plan with milestones and tactics to increase membership, shareholding and fundraising. It plays smoke and mirrors stating it is in the top 10 shareholders, when in reality it 0.04%. The Trust’s 120,000 shares are less than half what former CEO Peter Lawwell holds.
The latest Trust proposal is for an awareness campaign to find shareholders: The ones it already has addresses for. Retweet on social media and tell your mates to ask their old maw if dad ever bought shares in the 90s. Another vague campaign that won’t increase either membership or shareholding. More pie in the sky amateurism from Trustees.
There are indeed a Trust as incumbent and inept as the PLC Board it likes to slate.
I wrote an Open Letter to the Trustees which I presented to them and asked them to consider it and to discuss it with the membership on the Trust’s dedicated Forum. The trustees refused to do this.
Dialogue with members was not something the Trustees are keen on. Dissent is quickly stamped on and discussion is not tolerated.
I had a website blog and news story removed from the website, I was removed from the Communications Sub Committee after the mailout issue and decided to take no further part in Trust activities till the AGM next week.
Last month, the Trust took a decision to close down the Forum – get this – due to lack of interest and participation. The very people who wouldn’t participate or promote it.
So, my advice to members and shareholders is to attend the AGM and ask some very pertinent questions about leadership and direction of the Trust.
My instinct is that the Trust is a dead duck. Unless we vote for the motion of no confidence I have submitted and remove long-standing Trustees and Officers, the only hope for shareholders is a new shareholders organisation with a dynamic, professional approach.
Chris McGachy
Celtic Shareholder
Celtic Trust member
Twitter: @mcgachy
Motion for AGM
Celtic Trust motion for discussion at Annual General Meeting on 17 May 2022
Motion
This meeting agrees to a vote of no confidence in the current Trustees and Officers of the Celtic Trust.
The failure of the PLC board to deliver any meaningful European progression despite a decade of domestic dominance has been mirrored by the Trustees and Officers of the Celtic Trust.
Despite a traumatic league loss in season 2020-2021, the Trust leadership has overseen a reduction in Trust membership and no significant percentage increase in share ownership, least of all to 5%.
And in spite the formation of specialist sub-committees in early 2021, the Trust activities have seen no sustained campaigning against the PLC board or to attract either new members or to trace existing shareholders and increase its visibility as a shareholding organisation that fans can rally around.
Trust membership delivers around £60,000 per year in subscriptions. This meeting agrees that Trust activities do not represent value for money.
This meeting calls on incoming Trustees and Officers to produce a meaningful strategy document within three months of this AGM. This should include an activity plan to show with 6, 9 and 12-month objectives to show how the Trustees plan to increase both membership and percentage shareholding within the PLC club.
Proposed by
Chris McGachy
My favourite rebelless troll is Edward Nygma.
He used to post about blogs and £49
Then he laments the kellys(att:21,000) dippers!!
Wee Eddiae feels all assimilated enough to say they grow up and don’t mind the orange bigots
Secretly I think he is a confused wee bigot,you decide?
EDWARD NYGMA on 5TH MAY 2022 5:41 PM
If the OO is such a drain on anybody’s life who’s bloodline came from Ireland why would you stay on an island with such a controlling influence that the OO obviously has over your life making you a whining misery guts??
Once upon a long ago the OO used to stick in my craw.
Then this magical thing happened…. I grew up.
Should try it sometime. .
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A wee special message of love to idiot who posted 👆
Champions again.
God bless Celtic
An Gorta Mor
AN TEARMANN @ 6:50
Cheers for the link. A very enjoyable read 👍
HH
AN TEARMANN
I think that attacking fellow posters is one of Paul’s rules?
You seem to be shown an awful lot of lenience on this issue.
MADMITCH on 16TH MAY 2022 6:31 PM
CMG @ 6.23
All the pointers suggest that CJ’s head has left the building and is pining for a return to France.
For whatever reason he has given up on us and is looking elsewhere for next season. No idea why — in footballing terms — but he always came across as being a bit of a diva / over emotional.
You get the impression that there is not a big enough audience of French speakers in the dressing room to keep him at P/head.
AP deals with him every day so if he doesn’t play him then there must be a reason.
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Your last sentence is a good summation, imo.
HH
AN TEARMANN @7:18pm
That should read “AT has just posted against one of Paul’s rules.”
Not for the first time either.
AN TEARMANN on 16TH MAY 2022 6:19 PM
If you read back a blog or two to you can read my opposition to your silent lathering of soft racism,you know the one you thought you had last word one,same blog anonymous trolls like you were outing yourselves.that one
Now I ask why would a Celtic fan come on and be all faux worried about julien when we have won a title.
Your part of the jimmy bell worms,
Like jhb was,division,uncertainty,speculation in Like a rat.spread unfounded fear and speculate in a way an 80s meeja student would be embarrassed bout
Juliens tail was posted unsourced.Tom then provided source.the source was the same click bait shoite your now posting of CCV,hurting hun scum meeja.
And your lying about scrolling past otherwise I wouldn’t have wasted 5 mins reply to you
And remember do read back a few blogs.
It was racism and soft racism I was talking of amid your own mumbo jumbo acceptance of it.
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dear oh dear oh dear – If you’re not drunk then you are in serious need of help, I’ve no problem scrolling by you which sorts things for me – but sincerely hope you get the medical help you so obviously need.
TMcL @ 6.35
What MMcC actually said:
“The British State has always had a divide and rule policy throughout history. Ireland was a victim of this policy for centuries and as descendants of the Irish Migration to Scotland in the 19th and early 20th century we suffered the same religious and racist discrimination that most people in Ireland had suffered for centuries.”
That is what he said and it is what you liked / supported.
What you claim he said:
Nobody said the Tories instigated sectarianism in Scotland. MMCARTNEY said they took advantage of it.
As noted above — that is not what he said.
So you are at your snidey worst trying to alter what he said.
The other alternative is that you didn’t really understand what he said and just tried to wing it.
Not good on either count.
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For the record — Sectarianism in Scotland never came from the British state / it came from within.
So for a self confessed follower of the subject of Scottish history — you are in a bad place.
You are havering.
You are at the madam.
You are as thick as *hite at the neck of a bottle.
Rock Tree Buoy,
Exactly what I have been saying regards Jullienn.Keep asking the question,”When exactly did he become a bad CH”.No answers.
Yes,we all buy into Ange.Does not make everything he does perfect.I am sure most at the fans would have liked to have seen,Ideguchi,Jullien,Dembele,get starts in a meaningless game.
I hear some trumpets say” Obviously Jullien is not doing it in training” without a shred of evidence.
If Ange does not think he is good enough,which should amaze 95 % of the support,then ,the same support Ange keeps praising,should be told why.We have seen the big man play.What do you see different from us.
My fear,and should be everyone else’s,is that CCV walks,and we are left scrabbling around for a top class CH,that we cannot afford,unless we get lucky.
Jullien every right to be angry,he was a senior member of our squad.
The Tom I know…
Well,Tom,the Mad Hatter has called you “Snidey”.
Heaven forfend.
Should wear that as a badge of honour.
Means you are getting right up his fekin nose.
ROCK TREE BHOY on 16TH MAY 2022 3:49 PM
Would like some clarification re Christopher Julien, why is he being blanked? We all saw the injury, his knee crashing into a post keeping out a net bound shot, and we all saw him score the winner in the (FF) League Cup final. Our kind of player right? But now he’s fit again and he’s getting the Bobo Balde treatment. An explanation would be good. If CCV heads off to the premiership he would be an excellent replacement.
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Good evening RTB.
From whom do you seek clarification (and explanation)? Ange?
I suspect that no posters on CQN have the definitive answers you seek.
You say CJ has been “blanked”. What is your definition of blanked?
I’d hazard a guess, and suggest Jullien has returned to first team training, been assessed by Ange and his coaching/science team, and – like Barkas, Ajeti & others – Ange has decided to go with alternative players for the positions that these players play. I think it’s really that simple.
Kyogo, GG, Maeda, Abada etc have all played centre forward – with no sign of Ajeti. I assume you require no clarification or explanation as to why Ajeti is being “blanked”? Is this because you agree with Ange’s player selection pecking order for the centre forward role?
Yet you question Ange’s decision to play others ahead of Jullien at CH. Why?
Do you think you are a better judge of player than our current manager (the current manager of the year in Scotland).
You ask for an explanation?
From whom, and via what medium? Do you think Ange should publicly declare why CJ has less game time than you’d like? Really?
I don’t get it.
HH
Lambert 14,
Who the fek are you to tell us that Julliens career was,\ is finished.Another trumpet blabbing about”His opinion”.
Your opinion,being foisted on the rest of us through total ignorance of the subject,unless you work with the medical team,means fek all.
REBELLESS SINCE 94 = BACK AE THE BUS on 16TH MAY 2022 6:54 PM
Were Rogic and Bitton advised testimonials wont be possible because Celtic PLC know that there are more lockdowns on the way via W.H.O. being elevated to levels that supersedes any national government authority in sneaky obscure deals that have been agreed upon from “most” national governments away from the majority of media reporting, and any coverage of these agreements would’ve had a detrimental effect on season ticket sales?
….
Tough read but on balance NO
Toomanyconspiracynuttersaboutcfc
Turkeybhoy
“If Ange does not think he is good enough,which should amaze 95 % of the support,then ,the same support Ange keeps praising,should be told why.”
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If you think 95% of the support are amazed that Ange doesn’t start Jullien, I suspect you don’t speak to too many Celtic fans. 😁
HH
Call Me Gerry,
Once again,you” Hazard a guess”.That’s your evidence regards Jullienn.
Let me,”Hazard a guess”.Its one that says you know fek all on the subject,
EL @ 6.54
The turbulence regarding the voting blocks in Scotland is something that is crying out for detailed study.
The Irish Catholic block / community vote of yore — one of the three legs of the Labour vote stool.
It survived the Church led attacks of the 90’s when some in the Bishop’s Conference got jealous that too many in their congregations put politics before religion and with encouragement from Tory Central Office tried to put pressure on their congregations to break the habits of a political lifetime.
I blame “Fatty Pang” for pulling a couple of loose threads to see what would happen — the guy really was a master at the political games after his performance in 1992.
Unfortunately identity for too may now trumps ideology — common cause is not the done thing anymore and unbelievably football allegiances come before politics / social and political progress.
This to me shows a community that is fast regressing towards the caricature of those they once pitied and despised.
We are now living in the world of the Green Hun.
Incredible that society is now more polarised than in the 70’s / 80’s.
Football is now being used to define a person’s politics.
Cart before the horse and then some.
Call me Gerry, at 7.51.
OK,tell me when the vast majority of Celtic fans did not think Jullien a good CH.
REBELLESS SINCE 94 = BACK AE THE BUS on 16TH MAY 2022 7:22 PM
AN TEARMANN @7:18pm
That should read “AT has just posted against one of Paul’s rules.”
Not for the first time either.
Oh wah-what rule was that?
Oh wah-why is it offensive to remind you,an anonymous troll of one of your own posts
Sssshhh
TB @ 7.35
Enough rope ….
You really don’t like AP — do you?.
Snidey comments seem to be your stock in trade.
Oh well — you seem to have gone native in Asia Minor so you seem to have picked on the local vibe that tries to find fault in all things Greek.
Call me Gerry
Why are so many on here questioning Ange’s judgement/decision to not play Jullien, or put Jullien higher up the pecking order?
Because they know better than Ange? – or Ange is a bad bad man that has frozen CJ out of the team, I mean why would any manager pick the players he brought in to a successful team, over someone that hasn’t kicked a ball for nearly a year and a half.
I don’t get it either.
Call Me Gerry,
Really,you are comparing a CH,who played Two seasons for the club,racking up 10 goals in 82 appearances,won titles,cups,to a Striker that was an absolute dud for us,Ajeti !!!!,that’s your reasoning.Go and think it through again,and get back to us.
I love Ange,but I don’t lick asses.If he does not want Jullien,then tell us.That would be fine.
Don’t hide behind half hearted platitudes.
TURKEYBHOY on 16TH MAY 2022 7:57 PM
Call me Gerry, at 7.51.
OK,tell me when the vast majority of Celtic fans did not think Jullien a good CH.
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I made no such assertion. Nor would I be so arrogant to think that I knew how 95% if our fans think.
YOU, on the other hand, stated that 95% of the support should be amazed “if Ange doesn’t think he is good enough”.
I simply disagreed with your assertion. Is that allowed?
And I did so cordially, without insulting you.
Perhaps you should learn how to discuss differing opinions without the need to throw personal insults.
HH
TB @ 7.57
I am Spartacus …
Regarding doubts about CJ and his suitability to be the class CB we needed.
I think that he is an excellent footballer but not quite consistent enough to be the CB we need.
Talented / mobile / great footballing ability but over emotional on a football field.
He has played some great games at CB but he has also played some howlers.
Consequently he needs to up his consistency / decision making to be the CB we need.
Add in his poor recovery from the injury 17 months ago and I struggle to see how he can get back into the team — he did not stand out for the first team on his one appearance this season and he was not great for the B Team.
Add in his comments to the French media and his future would look to be elsewhere.