No disrespect to Falkirk, but I was delighted Hibs overturned the three goal deficit on Saturday’s Scottish Cup semi-final. It was almost a miraculous victory for a team in bad need of a miracle. Things were not always this way.
Celtic and Hibernian meet in next month’s Scottish Cup final sixty years and six days after the teams met in the Coronation Cup final. Back then Hibs were hot favourites. Celtic had won only two leagues in the previous quarter century whereas Hibs, with their Famous Five forward-line, won three leagues in the previous six seasons, losing a fourth on goal average.
These were hard times to be a Celtic fan. Two league titles in the 20s, two in the 30s and one in the 50s (a double winning team in 1954), ensured that a couple of generations of fans survived on little more than folklore. So the team who won the Coronation Cup in 1953, before securing that double a year later, had a significant impact on fans then, which you’ll easily learn if you speak to one.
Charlie Tully, Bobby Evans, Bobby Collins, Bertie Peacock and Willie Fernie all played in the Coronation Cup final, as did Neily Mochan and a man called Stein, the captain. A 117,000 crowd of Celtic and Hibs fans ensured Hampden was covered in banners of green.
Apparently Hibs were by far the stronger team but Neily Mochan scored a cracker in the first half and Johnny Bonnar played the game of his life in goal before Jimmy Walsh scored a late second.
“Said Phillip to Liz watch the Celts don’t step in…….”
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yogiy @13:59 a reminder of another aspect of our social history that was destroyed under Thatcher.
There are noises being made down here about making breakfast clubs and after school clubs part of the teacher’s contract.
In my area some parents are grumbling that the breakfast club, at primary school, doesn’t open till eight. They want school to start at seven and end at seven.
BTW yogiy I 100% agree with your assessment of the massive contribution that teachers made to Scottish football.
Doc is Neil Lennon
14:09 on 15 April, 2013
I hope the status quo remains in place and no attempt at SPL2 is made.
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Turnbull Hutton is convinced that when vote is rejected SPL2 is a certainty.
He worked tirelessly to get a good deal for RR and other 1st division clubs .
“The only option for us” he said
It will be interesting to see what he and Peter Lawwell have to say.
Shame on sevco and their 2 cohorts
Now is the time for supporters “Bhoycott “
It will be interesting to find out exactly why St Mirren and Ross County said no to the proposal. Can’t see what is in it for them
NTASSOOLLA
No kidding,I see kids on their way to school at half six.
Obviously sent on their way from necessity by working parents.
Disnae make it right.
What next for Stewart Gilmour at St Mirren, will all be revealed ?
Will we hear his grand plan for Scottish football or is the elimination of the 11-1 SPL vote all he wants?
Did StM and Rc vote no because thats what sevco wanted ?
St Mirren and Ross County destroy Scottish Football. Who would have thought it.
A message to Gilmour, I hope for your sake Green delivers on all his promises…
30,00Sevco Shares dumped for 61p before lunch. Chickens & Roost comes to mind. If there is any talk at all re Sevco being parachuted into an SPL2 it will be take to the streets time.
State Aid?
Haha haha
Don’t think ra ber has actually grasped the notion of state aid. There are 5 tests that are applied but basically it must have the potential to distort an inter-country market unfairly in terms of competition. As Scottish Football is a closed country market he’ll no get very far.
His claim of committee bias is a different matter but one that would fall on the individual councillors and not the club.
Another loyal saddo dead end……………… just like the club he used to support.
HH
I have no problem with an SPL2 as long as Sevco are not in it.
What are the odds that the SFA/SFL/SPL etc will decide that it is just too difficult to unravel who is/what/owns Rangers/The Rangers/Sevcos by the score, that they will agree to revert to a Rangers team/club being in the top league with no questions asked
Celtic keep their £1 Million and Scottish Football dies…
ROW Z – Let Celtic Flourish By The Cleansing Of The ‘Den!
14:19 on
15 April, 2013
Is there also not a clue in the name ‘state aid’? Are GCC a ‘state’?
Memo to Gilmour & St Mirren
I hope Green & Ellis deliver with your SOUP .
You will need all the help you can get from them
It’s seems to me that a fourth tier club is calling the shots in Scottish football.
afernoon all at 3 minutes past 3 today hope you can all take a wee moment to remember the 96 men women and kids that went to a football match and never came home. JUSTICE FOR THE 96..
corkcelt
14:20 on 15 April, 2013
I have no problem with an SPL2 as long as Sevco are not in it.
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AGREED 100%
quonno
13:37 on 15 April, 2013
Paul,
Article confirmed something I have been long aware of.
That is that Celtic Fans of my father’s generation 1920-60 were severely short changed by a blinkered and unambitious management.
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That’s why they all chucked it and walked away.
That’s why we don’t have a club today, because they never passed on the LOVE of the club to their sons.
Football was a completely different business from today and all clubs ruled their staff with an iron hand.
Players were tied to their clubs for as long as the clubs wanted them.
My generation, from 1950 onwards, saw some great players in a Celtic jersey. We all know their names.
Unfortunately, for us, we lacked tactical nous.
Primarily because Bob Kelly ruled the roost and control was his strong suite.
Great as our players were, they still had to overcome the obstacles that are still in place today.
However, the main thing for us was that we loved being part of Celtic, W,L or D and nothing was better than being at Parkhead, as we knew it as, and winning….sometimes.
There was no such thing as customers in those days and when there were grumblings against the Kelly Kids, BK told us if we didn’t like it, then stay away.
Some did, but others stayed and passed on the torch.
Regan Doncaster Longmuir all stood together at Hampden in January and said this is the way forward. Again they fail. THEY MUST RESIGN TODAY
A lot of time and effort wasted, an interesting summer…………………..
lionroars67
14:24 on
15 April, 2013
Regan Doncaster Longmuir all stood together at Hampden in January and said this is the way forward. Again they fail. THEY MUST RESIGN TODAY
A lot of time and effort wasted, an interesting summer…………………..
that wss before green got his claws into gilmour mate…
Stuart Milne is not a happy chappy. Called out Gilmour, and laid the blame squarely at his/their door for the rejection of the proposals.
More to come methinks!
HH
Sheelagh McLaren @sheelaghmclaren 5m
Stewart Milne said they’d offered to change voting structure on reconstruction to 9-3 for future votes but St Mirren couldn’t be persuaded
When do the S/B renewals go out?
BMCUW a quality education is impossible for a child doing 12 hour days.
To call for the teachers to also do 12 twelve hour days reveals the contempt with which Cameron and co. hold us and ours.
‘Clubs should put personal gain aside…but Rangers should go straight up to the second tier’.
– Andy Goram
wee minger
they are part of the ‘state’ as is their funds. That’s why the Spanish situation where the local authority ended up owning several local clubs and all their assets IS under investigation.
If GCC gave any company £1m which enabled them to compete more cheaply in a genuine inter-country market that would be against state aid and the benefiting company could be in trouble.
Unless you’re a bank of course. Giving Spanish banks £35bn is apparently not state aid in a competing industry. Nor is UK plc buying up RBS and Lloyds.
As always, pure bending of the rules when it suits.
HH
1st division clubs are the big losers in this
It’s Celtic statement time again CSC
corkcelt
14:19 on
15 April, 2013
30,00Sevco Shares dumped for 61p before lunch. Chickens & Roost comes to mind. If there is any talk at all re Sevco being parachuted into an SPL2 it will be take to the streets time.
Spot on mate , we need to fight this all the way .
HH
lionroars67
They said it because all 12 SPL clubs agreed to the change. Since then Green has started whispering in ears.
Make no mistake, this decision today forces the majority of SPL clubs to get Sevco back in the top league as soon as.
Watch their share price soar…
Reconstruction fails. Who’d a thunk it?
Now for plan B (before sevco goes bust).
HH
It wouldn’t have mattered – either way the’ll be a division higher than they should. That’s what the whole thing has been about all along. They were never going to be in the 18 league.
Why do issues such as financial distribution, a single governing body and voting need to be linked to league reconstruction? surely all of these can be progressed independently?
Hearts chief executive David Southern
“I wouldn’t like to talk about agendas but it was very clear today, despite what was said in the last seven days about 11-1 being the reason to not see this through; the actual concession made during the meeting which changed the vote from 11-1 to 9-3, when it got down to the bit that particular club decided to step back from it, so I think that’s a question for St Mirren to ask.”
BBC live feed very happy to print all the anti-Lawwell messages as well.
Can all the other clubs make a pact that they will reject any plans to create a spl2 . If two clubs can scupper 12-12-18 surely the rest of the clubs can refuse to play ball .
Jim Spence last week
@bbcjimspence
Stewart Gilmour on @bbcsportsound says 11-1 vote is unacceptable to St Mirren and he wants a 14 club league.
They made a concession to him in regards to the voting structure