Mourinho and pleasures delayed

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For those who like their pleasure delayed, there is something wholesome in the wider awakening to the traits and abilities of Jose Mourinho.  The Portuguese inherited a squad at Porto in 2002 that would achieve great things there and elsewhere, notably against Celtic in Seville a year later, then against Monaco in 2004, but Mourinho’s principle contribution to results was his indulgence in the game’s dark arts.

Later in his career he would achieve while out-spending competitors, or by ‘parking the bus’ while still outspending most.  His temperament has always had a question mark over it.  Never has he won a league after his second at a club, by then, the impression of brilliance has always unravelled.

He made a barbed comment aimed broadly in the direction of Brendan Rodgers last week, although the Celtic manager was not mentioned, before picking on his own squad this week.  All will serve to divert attention from the fact that his spending is eye-watering and comparable to anywhere, but he will never get close to Manchester City.

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  1. SFTB

     

     

    I read back to read your post on Celtic taking the lead on accepting some responsibility for the abuse of children working under the cover of the Celtic badge.

     

     

    I’m with James Gang on Celtic taking the lone initiative which would be a stick for others to beat us with.

     

     

    However in a chat with Paul Goodwin of SFSA he revealed that it was at a meeting (whose reason I cannot recall ) but it was on the subject of coaching kids, that a lady amongst an audience of men raised the question who guards the coaches?

     

     

    It escalated from there and I need to refresh my memory on where the matter now stands, but the issue is one that was laid at the door of the SFA.

     

     

    Now that lot move in months where the rest of the business world acts in minutes, but I think Celtic should be playing an active role within their SFA membership, not just in introducing safeguards but also on the healing of victims.

     

     

    It is the sort of issue supporters of football should have a say in with leverage, but as it stands we are in the hands of an unprofessional not fit for purpose governance organisation, who pay little heed to sporting ethics and probable need educating on ethics generally.

     

     

    It is perhaps an issue you could raise directly with Celtic along with like minded fans, to find out Celtic’s stance and offer to pursue the idea of bringing peace and reconciliation to victims of abuse when playing their favourite sport through current initiatives.

     

     

    He probably won’t thank me but from my odd meetings with Tony Hamilton of The Foundation as an empathiser of the idea, he might be the guy to talk to.

  2. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    My 18 year old son is none too happy as will many others who attended our three home Scottish Cup games this season , who did not get tickets for the semi final. This will no doubt mean , if we win the semi final, no cup final ticket

     

     

    I’m in the home ticket scheme, he isn’t but I was going to give him mine as I wrongly assumed I would get one.

     

     

    A poster suggested after the Morton game that all those who made the effort to attend that match should be given first refusal on semi final tickets. A very good suggestion.

     

     

    I would love my son to experience , like many other Celtic supporting parents, the chance for him to see us possibly winning another trophy and , on what could be , a momentous occasion.

  3. i’m very disappointed tonight.

     

    I have had some personal issues to deal with this week which mean i have not been checking online. now find out the semi final tickets are sold out. No email to warn me dispite the fact i pay for 4 tickets – home scheme etc- through my email/membership group. seems now the glory hunters are back that us plebs that have kept buying ST over the past 10 years are dispensable.

     

    To rub it in I stay in the battlefield side of hampden which is no place for a good tim when sevco play!!

  4. James Gang

     

     

    I’ll call you out of your fitba snobbery mhate!! ;-)

     

     

    And I’ll call you out on your framing of my argument. It would be snobbish if I was saying “I know about it but you don’t!”. If you wanted to be pejorative about my argument, submissive, deferential or cap-doffing might be more apt :-). Seriously, any profession or skill that you observe can be critiqued and analaysed and you might just have some reasonable amateur insights but, if you’ve never managed a class, you are in a poor position to critique a teacher. If you’ve never studied medicine, you are in a weak position to critique a doctor and if you’ve only played or managed at a youth or amateur level then you only have a homepathic dose of the knowledge and skills required to face down a squad of 40 plus hairy-assed pros, some with very limited education outside of football. I have coaching qualifications in 3 sports including youth football badges and I ran a club from under 7s to under 11s, with some success. But any one with coaching experience can turn their hand to running a coaching session, the principles are the same in all sports. Coach, Drill, and expand/generalise to a game type situation applying lessons/skills learned. But running a football club needs more than that. Which is why PL will not be recruiting on CQN or Linkedin anytime soon. The recruitment pool will remain restricted to those who have proven themselves as the work through the levels of lower leagues and less demanding clubs up to equivalent or better clubs than Celtic. I could turn the pejorative “snobbish” on its head and call it “arrogant” to expect that Brendan will apply listening ears to you or me. Quite frankly he has better things to do with his time.

     

     

     

     

    Football’s not some mystery or deep science or dark art. It’s the most readily understandable and accessible sport on the planet, hence its popularity.

     

     

    Neither is rugby or medicine or skiing or water polo or dancing. You can look and say “I could do that” but, in most instances, without your 10000 hours behind you (and I don’t mean talking or typing for 10000 hours) you will fail to meet the mark. The gifted amateur remains an amateur. An impressive figure like Jim McGuiness did not make the grade at Celtic and will struggle, like Clive woodward before him, to make an impact. And they were more impressive figures with better credentials than 99.9% of CQNrs who post on here.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    In the words of Bill Shankley. ‘Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.’ He was an expert. Perhaps that gives him sufficient credence in your eyes!

     

     

    I will assume that you have some background in coaching in your preferred sport. Have you ever tried to follow Bill’s advice above-? Just tell them it ‘s a simple game and just play it simply and let them get on with it. Bill spent many a long day honing those simple skills over and over and over again and if a player did not get it ( and looking at the churn rate of players even with great coaches, lots of them didn’t) then he went out and bought players who were developed by other coaches who did possess these skills and could fit his team. Keegan and Rush were bought from teams where other coaches than Shankly had put in the hard graft. Dalglish came in (admittedly after Shankly) as a ready made player.

     

     

    So simple as it is to observe and talk about, it remains a hard thing to teach, coach and manage. Most on here who think they could do it, would have their opinions changed and their self esteem shattered by being asked to run a session for Broony, Griff and the boys. They would see right through us. We would last less long than a Caixinha, Murty or Deila.

     

     

    You brave enough to tell Scott Brown to his face where he is going wrong??

  5. DELANEYS DUNKY on 21ST MARCH 2018 10:29 AM

     

    SoT

     

     

    Love The Doors. Strange Days Indeed. People are Strange when you’re a Stranger!

     

     

    *The first song I heard on the car radio, 1050 CHUM, on the drive tae Weston, a small town north of Toronto back then, after alighting from the plane at the old Malton Airport about 50 year ago was “Touch Me” by the Doors, Toronto at that time had an area called Yorkville which was its equivalent of Haight-Ashbury, quite the bohemian cultural centre. I was also living here when Jim allegedly exposed himself in the bible belt.

     

     

    A year later I was back home again and then 7 year further on the last song I heard on that rainy morning as we headed tae Prestwick was “I’m Not In Love (be quiet, big boys don’t cry)”, on driving up Airport Road after arriving the first song this time was “you’d think that people would have had enough of silly love songs”. WTF I thought, place has went backward culturally, also Yorkville had become an affluent neighbourhood.

  6. Celticrollercoaster supporting @WalkWithShay on

    SFTB

     

     

    I’ve seen you dance down the wing at CQN 5s on a Saturday morning

     

     

    I’m not qualified to say whether it was a good or bad dance though :-)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  7. BRTH

     

     

    You will have shared your workplace with her husband i have no doubt Gill.

     

     

    KEEP THE FAITH

  8. Another thing

     

    Hope that leaked new strip was is real

     

    I’ll be buying one or 2 of those :-))

     

     

    Hail Hail

  9. Confused.

     

     

    Celtic normal allocation for Hampden is 22000.

     

     

    I attended 3home games at celtic park. The lowest attendance was under 20000.

     

     

    How can the tickets be sold out ?

  10. Sftb

     

     

    I should have put on a bigger smiley on my 1st line!

     

    My ribbing you was largely tongue in cheek.

     

     

    I’m hitting the sack do excuse my abbreviated reply.

     

    I’d tell neither BR or Scott Brown how to do their jobs. Partly out of courtesy. Partly as I’m sure way too many people already do so. Fear of Broonie wouldn’t come into it.

     

     

    That doesn’t mean that I or the rest of us don’t have a valid view or an accurate perspective.

     

     

    As for the 10,000 hours argument. One, it’s challenged (though I accept its logic and generally subscribe to the principal); two it’s so much easier to coach/know what to do then to actually do it.

     

     

    That’s why we’re on cqn and Messi ain’t!!

     

     

    Night. Brave and valuable post this morning btw.

     

     

    HH jamesgang

  11. SFTB

     

     

    I didn’t realise you were a coach and probably aware of SFA policy but useful for others to read.

  12. Celticrollercoaster supporting @WalkWithShay on

    St Stivs

     

     

    Players, Employees, Corporate, Investors ST holders, hangers on and dodgy pals of the TO may suck up a few tix, I imagine

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  13. Delaneys Dunky on

    TT

     

    Listening to a near neighbour of you tonight. David Byrne fae Dumbarton. Talking Heads are dynamite. Jim Morrison is another Celt

     

    Irish heritage.

     

    Break on through to the other side was the first track I heard from The Doors. Timothy Leary another Celt. Turned me on to Jim Morrison’s sounds. About to listen to LA Women album. Miss another Doors freak Maggie McGill formerly of this parish. Met him in Lisbon last year. His intelligence was awesome. Sad to lose him fae here. His bro’s Awe Naw and Morrissey23 are also missed by me. Haste them back.

  14. HEN1RIK on 21ST MARCH 2018 10:31 PM

     

     

    From bhoy magic twitter.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Example of why the SFA remain confident they’ll ride out the corruption. https://twitter.com/CelticFCTickets/statu

     

     

    ===/==

     

    As long as Celtic are winning these games the cheating is forgotten.

     

     

    Collum was a disgrace last game but we overcame.

     

     

    They only need to get lucky/cheat once to win for the wailing to start.

  15. FRIESDORFER on 21ST MARCH 2018 2:42 PM

     

     

    Anyone going to the Celtic Trust AGM on Saturday?

     

     

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    Aye me :-)

     

     

    For anyone interested or who’s missed the emails the Celtic Trust AGM will be this Saturday 24th March at 12 noon in the London Rd Social Club.

     

     

    Our resolution will focus on ticketing and today’s shambles is a perfect example of why there are issues which need addressed.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  16. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    St Stivs , I agree . There is something funny going on, again.

     

     

    Surely they can tell if somone whose season ticket has been activated for a home cup game , they ave actually went through the turnstile for said game.

     

     

    If that’s the case , then those who did attend a home cup game should have a better chance of getting a ticket for a semi final and a possible final.

  17. prestonpans bhoys on

    Anyone know what the qualifying criteria was for the semi? I didn’t noticed and got mine by looking at online by chance at 10 this morning. Thought HTS got first choice before the rest, surprised it’s sold out already.

  18. AULDHEID on 21ST MARCH 2018 8:56 PM

     

    Friesdorfer

     

     

     

    If you or anyone going to CST AGM can you contact me via Paul67?

     

     

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    Why?

  19. HT,

     

     

    Can you throw a grandwean one aswell?

     

     

    Mate went to TO today, 1.5 hours later getting two tickets – had been to three previous games and, queued and paid cash but told not on HTS so zilch, beeling,,,

  20. 6 of us in the extended family. All of us on home ticket scheme. All of us went to the 3home games.

     

     

    Ranging from 7 to 77.

     

     

    I work all day. No chance to get online to buy.

     

     

    Nephew works nights. Sleeps all day. No chance to get online.

     

     

    Old uncle. Never bought a ticket online ever. Doesn’t have email. No chance to buy.

     

     

    Nice. Dad works abroad. He is the account holder. No chance to buy.

     

     

    Something very wrong in this.

  21. David17

     

     

    The way that Celtic have conducted the ticket sales for the semi final have been utterly shambolic.

     

     

    I’ve been getting texts from guys who’ve not missed a domestic game home or away for years who missed out purely because of the way this has been handled.

  22. prestonpans bhoys on

    Saint,

     

     

    Don’t know what’s going on here but if Celtic are compiling some new patronage for semi tickets then I out the HTS. Never seen a sell out like that before, it’s bad enough the ridiculous qualifying criteria for away games without this.

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